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Old January 29th, 2014, 06:02   #21
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$5,600!!!!! Costs more than the car!
I guess that's why nobody recommended these then! My budget was only £350

How do these compare to Morel Ultimo? That's the other set I got offered but they were around £550 used.

Sinfoni amps are definitely on the cards once the performance sides done, I was going to get one sooner but this clutch needs upgrading asap!
Well, that's the price in Sweden..(36000sek)
Not cheap but they sound quite okey..

Haven't heard ultimo.

Sinfoni is releasing a new line cheaper amps if you want new ones.

And...new grandioso..6.5" and tweeter for the small rekomended price of 5451$..just the speakers..no filter.
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Old January 29th, 2014, 07:45   #22
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cheers mate, I'll check the shipping options...
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Old January 30th, 2014, 01:18   #23
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Well, that's the price in Sweden..(36000sek)
Not cheap but they sound quite okey..

Haven't heard ultimo.

Sinfoni is releasing a new line cheaper amps if you want new ones.

And...new grandioso..6.5" and tweeter for the small rekomended price of 5451$..just the speakers..no filter.
Christ these Sinfoni prices are bonkers! I think I'll be saving for some used Amplitude amps for now!

Back to the deadening and I quickly realised this 9-3 was a bit different to the last one (og9-3 vert) and after deadening the doors the bloody door card wouldn't go back on

I deadened the outer skin first with silent coat MLExtra, then covered & sealed the inner skin but the card wouldn't go back on with the CLD sheets covering the panel gaps as the card looks like it moulds into the door frame?


So had to cut out the middle part then recover with CCF (closed cell foam) and it went on ok, pic below also has CCF fitted which I peeled off to reapply the new sheets, I replaced the 8mm stuff with 4mm.




And ontop of that I've added the MLV which was 2mm, made a nice difference all round, cabins a lot quieter.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 01:24   #24
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On the rear of the door card I've added some Silent Coat sound absorber 15 which is 15mm egg crate foam. Some add more CLD sheets here but I've just added the foam to stop it squeaking against the MLV. Also removed the big blue foam block and covered with the other stuff, as the door card won't go back on. Done the trick!


Some pics of the CCF, MLV & foam.

CCF from foam solutions (3 & 6mm)


Sound absorber 15


MLV, big heavy sheets at 5gk per meter square! (10 sheets fitted so far!) still have the boot to do.


Other doors done








Then covered the lot with CCF (isolator 4) one large sheet was stuck down from the top then worked into the gaps and stuck to the inner skin. Had to make a few holes for the wiring and door lock etc.



MLV & absorber fitted


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Old January 30th, 2014, 01:33   #25
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Just realised I haven't said how the MLV was stuck on! I bought a few rolls of heavy duty Velcro, cut into smaller strips then stuck one side to the CCF and the other to the MLV. I've had the cards off a few times since and they haven't budged.

Same as the other doors, 2 & 4mm CLD on the outer skin, 2mm on the inner skin in places, then covered with 4mm CCF then topped off with 2mm MLV. And then the 15mm egg crate foam on the back of the card. Deadened to death and really makes a difference, took hours & hours but well worth the effort








I had one roll of Velcro left so had to use it wisely to cover both doors!



This is one sheet of Dodo MLV, plenty for each door and any large off cuts ill be re-using for the floor/boot.




Here's how I've done the Velcro on the last 2 doors, could really do with some more to be safe but I thing it'll be ok with the door card holding it in place.


Door card done


That's the doors deadened, not the best job but will do me! Took AGES!!!!!!

Interior next (very nearly sent me over the edge trying to get everything back in!!! Not exactly Mr DIY and this is a huge learning curve!)
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Old January 30th, 2014, 02:58   #26
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I'll just copied & paste the next part from my UKS thread as there's loads of pics & photobuckets playing up

Interior out today.....I AM KNACERED!!!!

Loads of pics on this one sorry.....

First thing to get out was the front seats, they came out pretty easily which was a nice surprise! I did the passengers first just in case I broke something! They're just held in with 2 bolts on the back of the runners, seat belts belt on with a star socket, then you need to lift the back up and fiddle around with the front until its released. Then there's a big connector that needs to come apart...10 mins and its out

You need a T45 Torx bit


2x bolts at the back of each runner, looks like they've got locktite on there but these came out ok.


Seat belt bolt


E14 bit needed



Big connector (no idea what this is for? The seats are manual & not heated?)


Pull this out and it comes apart all Saab like



One seat out....


Amp 1 then had to come out.


T25 Torx bit needed (all these smaller Torx screws seem to be T25 which is handy!)


Amp off..

Fair bit of surface rust but its working fine, I'll be refitting this later on but it won't be used.

Drivers seat then came out out same as the passengers.
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Rear seats out

These just needed a careful tug from behind at each end then the back comes up, putting them back in was a nightmare though!




Then the front side took a bit of wiggling to get out, these must hook into place or summat??




All seats out then onto the trim


T25 torx again and these were first off


Just had to carefully remove it then get the rest off piece by piece


Then off with this smart thingy


2 x screws then off it comes


Open the center box, take the rubber bottom out then unscrew these


Then start removing the rest


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Old January 30th, 2014, 03:01   #28
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Door sills next

I started from the center & worked from there














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Glovebox off


3x T25 bolts inside


13mm socket


T25 torx each side



Out it comes!


Couple connectors at the rear

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That's most of the trim now removed and I'm left with this:


Only problem (big problem) is I can't get the carpet out!! I've been trying to figure out a way but the only way I think it'll come out is if the entire centre console comes out....I'm not doing that! I know my limitations and stripping that lot is defo one!! Unless I've got it wrong it looks like they've laid the 2 bits of carpet first then bolted everything ontop of it...I'm screwed!!!

So the only way I can do the floor is lift a section of the carpet up at a time and lay the deadening as best I can.


The carpets pretty thick & heavy so even if I deaden 70% - 80% of the floor it should still make a nice difference. Looks like its got a thick layer of foam plus some vinyl attached already!!


So now the plan is to split the job into 4 and deaden each at a time, rear left & right first, then front left & right, I really wanted to get the lot out then do it properly but it's not happening & this just got more difficult as the carpet is a right swine to work around!!!!
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